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Well I'm 0/2 with "greymuzzle" groups now. One allowed people to abuse me by calling me mentally ill, literally passing diagnosis, and trying to convince others I need to see a psychiatrist. No admin action besides a "please don't do that." Now the other has admins openly disrespecting (1/2)

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members with questions about the rules. The owner won't even acknowledge it happened, deletes comments asking him to, and threatened to ban one of his admins for speaking up. I'm so tired.

Awww I'm sorry to hear that Cray D: I can't imagine you are alone in that experience; maybe start your own? Although I totally understand if you don't have the bandwidth to run a group and just want to be a participant ^^

Several folks are working on it and I'm helping. I've been through it once, rescuing the NJ chats from the former owner, and I'm happy to lend my experience. I am proud to help run one chat that is willing to do what's right. I am exhausted at the thought of another, but no less willing to step up.