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To remain a free and diverse country, we must be willing to accept our diversity of opinions as we move towards our common greater goal. We must be willing to disagree agreeably in acquiring and preserving freedom.

The Jan 6 participation made me cringe. I commend her for not taking the pardon. I’m glad she has flipped. I’m glad she wants to attend a rally. Do I want her to speak? Idk. Idk. Another maga convert maybe. I’d have to think about it. It really is the Jan 6 participation that is bothering me.

She did her time, admits she was wrong & refused Trump's pardon. We should be embracing everyone who walks away from MAGA. By not allowing her to speak, doesn't that continue the divide? And that's exactly what Trump wants! Stop giving it to him, please.

Sadly, forgiveness comes hard for a lot of folks. She should just go to a different event. No one has to know who she is. No one knows who I am. Also, she needs No forgiveness except from herself.

I don't think Pam's a hero but do think she's accepted costs and responsibility, said what she did wrong, said her sorries. In a culture that values second chances, that should usually be enough. Left or right, perpetual purity penalty boxes undermine the responsibility for growth we ask of people.

People need to get over themselves, this is an all hands on deck moment because Republicans aren't going to help us, nor the courts especially,SCOTUS. I guarantee forgiving Ms.Hemphill isn't going to be as horrendous as losing our democracy & living in taco's authoritative hellscape.

I welcome anyone who isn't currently supporting trump. Little by little, people are coming around , even if they aren't democrats. How else will we ever heal and m9ve forward?

Disunity and petty squabbles have always been the weakness of the "left" in the US and Canada. Unfortunately the loudest voices seem to want everyone to be held to a spotless, and frankly impossible, standard.

How about we start reaching a hand out to those who have done the work to reprogram themselves? Holding grudges is immature and like Rep Kinzinger reminds, will lead us to failure.

I'm a long time feminist, freedom fighter, labor organizer and advocate, decades long environmentalist from back when it was called ecology but I've had run ins with those snotty "leftist" wankers for being insufficiently pure and it's galling. I wonder seriously if they are real or sock puppets.

Adam - this woman - regretful as she may be, has taken some controversial positions that don’t align well with decency and protection of young women (against male predatory practices). One thing for certain - nothing is black and white and billionaire propagandists are targeting us.

Invite Pam Hemphill. She should be given a voice in a new movement that must be about our Republic and our future. We keep saying, it's no longer about whether you're a progressive or "conservative". It's about democracy. PS: I understand today, that trust is in short supply, understandably.

She has been speaking about her experience and trying to turn people away from maga every day since she went to prison. Years. She has paid her price, faced harassment, and death threats. Who does that for fun? Why is everyone so judgmental? You don’t have to invite her into your house.

The whole idea of these protests is to bring people together across the political spectrum to break the hold Republicans have on power right now. People do not all agree on everything. Why do the Nampa Dems get to vet anyone. As a registered Dem, I think Dems need to get off their high horses.

bsky.app/profile/shee... You probably missed this weeks video of Pam being okay with a 44 year old man having sex with a young child. Pam Hemphill’s voice should not represent anyone.

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Adam Kinzinger, I beg you to watch this video of Pam from this week, and tell me she’s a good spokesperson for the resistance. I do not want this absolute amoral imbecile representing. rumble.com/v6ulppl-namp...

Pam Hemphill, the so-called “MAGA Grandma” was at Jan 6 attack, was arrested, plead guilty, was sentenced. Ms. Hemphill refused to take Trump's pardon because ... she knew she was guilty, and all she and others had done was based on a LIE. She considers the Trump pardon a continuation of the lies.

You and Liz did very good 👍 Thank you for your service. So did any of the MAGA Jan 6’ers who declined pardons and are consistently speaking against #FOTUS47 Glad people are wanting to join hands 🙌 They should not be turned away.

They start as an 'other'. A member of a marginalized group... find a tribe of their own kind, and finally feel safety and acceptance. Next they're bonding together, by engaging in a same marginalization of 'others' to validate themselves. Left has too many Sects, focused on own individual issues.

Funny how y’all are brimming with the milk of human kindness for white magas. But got nothing but FAFO for Latin and Arab magas. Hard pass, won’t be any MAGAs at these rallies - let her go where they’re at and talk to them. We don’t need her message.

Agreed. A once-Trumper who self-punishingly rejected a pardon by the lying chief insurrectionist of her crime of being fooled by that liar. That's different from cases in which Trumpers regret only when they later find out they're also indifferently punished by fascist buffoon.

Hemphill would make a very poor spokesperson. It would be best for everyone if she took up gardening or knitting or fly-tying. bsky.app/profile/shee...

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Adam Kinzinger, I beg you to watch this video of Pam from this week, and tell me she’s a good spokesperson for the resistance. I do not want this absolute amoral imbecile representing. rumble.com/v6ulppl-namp...

More like you, please! 😅 My politics are… a bit scattered. On many, if not most issues I’m progressive, but in temperament I’m a moderate. Most of the cohort I hang with is somewhere left of center, and I love them, but I grow so weary of the closed-ranks dogmatism of the leftier folks.

Even though we do our best, we still make mistakes, apologize and make amends. It is all we can do and still remain true to ourselves. There will always be purists who can’t accept that. It’s up to the rational ones to reign them back & help them see.

The far left is the same as the far right. We need to welcome and accept everyone to the cause. Yes we can be angry but we also are responsible for each other as human beings. Kindness and acceptance is taught. Don’t use the tools of the oppressor to get your point across.

I'm extremely LEFT leaning and understand that January 6th is still raw for so many of us,the pardons were the bandaid being ripped off Personally, I would have welcomed Pam with open arms. If we are going to beat the EVIL from within, we need people like Pam Hemphill to come forward and speak out.

So very good. As a retired SocWkr there were times the cases I assigned to me to reassign to my staff were families with previous histories of being 'difficult'. Yet, a case work began & one learned why, the opportunity came to forgive yourself for judging a family based on opinions of other SWs

Isn’t a reformed MAGA grandma exactly the kind of person you want on your side and speaking at a rally? Who is better equipped to speak to those still in the cult and show them that there is a way out? Many may reject her, but if she reaches even a few, isn’t that worth it?

I couldn’t find the video you mentioned, but in the ones I watched she talked about live and let live, supported abortion rights, was anti assault weapons and called J6 an insurrection. I’m not saying elect her to Congress, but if she wants to march with me I wouldn’t say no.

Purity testing and glass house mentality from progressives is real — most are affluent enough that their lives won’t be affected regardless who is in power. Politics is a persuasion game. Do we as progressives want to persuade the center to shift to us, or do we enjoy sitting in our high castles?

Sorry, not Sorry. Forgiveness can be obtained at a confessional. Recant in private, doing good deeds for the folks you have hurt with your vote. Headlining an event isn’t contrition, it’s a pass. We aren’t in that stage of grief for the loss of our beloved Democracy to start giving passes!

It's not like we have to be BFFs, y'all I 1,000% understand the loathing and distrust yet I also understand basic fucking logistics and ratios. WE NEED MORE willing resisters! Get off the damn high horses, make nice, and FIGHT TOGETHER

Hmmm… Sucks when someone does a lot of shitty things whilst masquerading as a hero, then does one thing (very) right but still doesn’t get the hero’s parade they feel is more than deserved. 😭 It’s almost like it takes more than doing one thing right to redeem oneself and earn people’s trust.

This is right on point. If a former MAGA wants to join Dems in the fight to save democracy, welcome her with open arms. "There is a tendency on the part of our more…left-leaning friends to believe they reside on the moral high-ground as if they were born atop the hill."

So do they *want* her to go back to MAGA? She's better than quite a few people, political identity irrelevant, who refuse to admit they ever did anything wrong to help create the environment for the current crisis. Plenty of blame to go around.

Let's not forget that many voted Trump not because they were convinced of him, but to keep perceived insufferable leftist/woke agendas from total domination. Little did they know they were chosing horror over annoyance, but hindsight is 20/20...

I'm sorry Adam, I wouldn't trust that woman, she ain't no hero for being decent once. Always where she can find a spotlight, in cahoots with militia COVID denialism. Now she's being white washed. She pulled some stunts with indigenous people too. JustAnotherGrifter. 🤷🏼‍♀️ irehr.org/2021/08/04/w...

Freedom of speech...might just as well be linked to "listening to refute"... Cuz they really go together like peanut butter and jelly! Meanwhile, you are thinking (about me) "what?!" AF PME, Communication 101... If ya know, ya know!

We need everyone who is at the point of disgust with the current administration. There are some people who may never be reachable, but approaching people with the understanding that they have been lied to an manipulated goes a long way. That being said, I am human and have bitten holes in my tongue.

yes! everyone willing to fight on the correct side NOW should be welcomed “People like Pam, or Joe Walsh, Adam Kinzinger, Miles Taylor, or any of us who’ve severed all ties with the political, personal, and professional world we knew, have been front and center in the fight; some of us for a decade

Seriously, she was told she was not going to be a featued speaker, so what, Im not a featuee speaker, Im still going, she can to, they didn't say she can't come, just not going to give her a speaker slot, this victimhood of former MAGA is something.

this is why the dems don't win. They act like a sack of cats. The progressives are the worst. until they stop acting like petulant children, we will not get out from under this mess

She's HIGHLY associated with the things she did leading up to and during J6.. she is still KKK grandma to LOTS of people as far as first thing they think seeing her.. It's not un-reasonable to want to avoid invoking that kind of imagery at anti trump events which may already be emotionally charged.

I haven’t seen any information about her ties to racist groups… beyond the group of racists she was with on Jan. 6, obviously. And, yeah, it’s reasonable to think that if someone who wasn’t a racist found themselves surrounded by racists, they’d be like, “whoa… what the fuck’s going on here?”

Left must stop trying to build an idealist platform. Real battle is for the middle. Libs/Dems need to better understand coalition building. Single issue criteria also plays into Right’s PR perception traps. Coalitions often work based on 80/20 rule. “Best” position or candidate won’t be “ideal”.

Seems to me that the French resistance enjoyed the help of the communists in France though they didn't care for them or agree with them one bit. The commies knew how to fight Nazis and yes, we need help from people who understand that mindset. Leave your high horses elsewhere and take the help.

My dad is MAGA. If he showed any remorse and wanted to come to the pro-democracy side, I would welcome him with open arms. People don't fully understand how brainwashed and cultist MAGA is. Anyone who is trying and doing the work to be pro-democracy should be at the protest.

This is not to excuse their votes and the harm they've caused. But we need to welcome people who are risking family, friendship, and professional ties to start to repair the harm and form healthier relationships.

Any and all of us on the opposition side, including those of us with more progressive views, need to become more vocal and articulate that our best allies are those who aren’t neck deep in corporate money and beholden to special interest groups. End Citizens United.

Yes, If you believe in the constitution and the rule of law: you’re in! We should not commit suicide with gating. They should have to defeat us. Some of the folks here are not understanding the moment we’re in.